Guest Blogger CT: Be Careful When Puma-ing, You Might Get More Than You Bargained For

Note From Texas Hill Country – CT is a blogger and a dedicated Conservative Republican.  This is the story about how (s)he came to know the PUMA movement and subsequent impressions.  I found this very interesting, wonderfully written and asked if I could cross-post the article here.  CT was kind enough to allow me to do so, and here you go…

From Politics and Critical Thinking

A few days ago one of the contributors on Conservative Badlands did a piece called the PUMA Factor, it was a look at how this block of voters might be one of the groups to decide the Presidential election in 08’. It made me realize that I didn’t know much about their movement or philosophies, other than the obvious. PUMA means Party Unity My Ass and they were angry because HRC got lambasted in the primaries and there was a SERIOUS possibility of caucus manipulation. So, I had an out of the ordinary idea, I figured go into their virtual community and ask them if anyone would be interested in answering a few questions for this post. Well I got some takers.

Most of the PUMA’s that answered the call of the wild in my open thread were female but the composite of their whole movement, I imagine, is a little harder to determine. One very pleasant and intelligent woman, who goes by the SN, Angrynana said this, “Also, there is a mistake in thinking all Pumas and Puma types are older, white women. There are men, people of many religions, all races, gays and lesbians, young, middle-aged, and older Pumas. There are groups from the West and the East. There are Native American Pumas and African American Pumas.” I can honestly say I believe this assessment. Since there were about 18 million people who voted for Hillary in the primaries and the Democratic Party is noted for its pluralism, it makes sense they are a very diverse lot.

What I was more curious about was what brought them to this point and what were they going to do after the election. Their responses ranged from moving to the GOP, going Independent, to retaking the Democratic Party. Judging the answers, Ereizindian sums the majority of their thoughts up well, “If the Dem leadership continues to deprecate its members who were slandered and vilified in the primaries and GE, I shall become an Indie, possibly on my way to becoming a Republican.” This is not to say all of sudden they identify with the Republican or Conservative movement. For them, however, it will be a near strategic impossibility to retake the Democratic Party. It has slid too far into an abyss of identity politics and viral cult worship, it is no longer about issues, it is about one man.

Despite their obvious visceral anger towards the Democratic Party establishment a single theme reigned supreme in the great majority of their posts and emails. Helen put it best, “IT IS COUNTRY AND PRINCIPLES BEFORE PARTY.” I was absolutely, jaw droppingly, astounded to hear a Hillary supporting Democrat in Exile say this. These responses gave me the insight to look at them as I have never looked at a political opponent before, I saw Americans who care about their country. This got me thinking, who am I to judge whether they can love their country just because they are Democrats. Neither Republicans nor Conservatives have the copyright or moniker on patriotism. After all aren’t PUMA’s demonstrating this by standing by our sides?

They have become apostates to their party but not their country, that speaks volumes to me. PUMA’s have recognized that this is about America, not a singular person. They also understand this has nothing to do with the sweeping change and one man, little m, cannnot shoulder this all by his lonesome. That goal is far too lofty and enchanting to be anywhere near reality. Truth be told, he is neither Atlas nor Prometheus, even if he thinks he is.

In closing I would like to thank all of the ladies and gentlemen who so graciously accepted my invite to participate in this undertaking, I hope I did you justice. Sometimes we get reminders of things from unexpected sources and that is what the PUMA’s did for me. My suggestion to Republicans and Conservatives, alike, try and understand them. Politically we may need them as much as they need us, we are rapidly becoming a house that is acquiring vacancies and they may need a home. More importantly, they are Americans who love their country enough to look past partisan lines. That, my friends, is the miracle of being an American first.

-CT

“Happy Hunting!”

Pic cred to The Confluence, I violated some internet copyright laws by snagging them. Hopefully in the spirit of the post they won’t mind.

10 Responses

  1. THC,

    Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

    I have gone over to Team Sarah, as you may know. There I have found many PUMAs… but also several Republicans deserving of respect.

    I never would have known how many moderate GOP voters there are…. had I not ventured out into their territory. As a long time Dem, I really had a picture in my mind that they were all a bunch of wingnuts.

    To be honest, I am finding myself more and more aligned with the thinking of moderate Repubs. I would like to see some fiscal restraint at the federal level, as most of them would. And, tho I remain a Liberal… I am beginning to see the wisdom of allowing the states to decide. It puts the power back into the hands of the people…. which means change can take longer, but is ultimately more sound.

    I will say one other thing. I have found a welcoming brigade on Team Sarah. Very unlike the scorch and burn tactics of the left this year. No one may question camp Obama in any way, shape or form… unless she wants to be run out of the party. And that is what happened to me.

    I raised the red flag on Obama a long time ago. After reading his memoirs, and looking at his voting records, I found him to be too risky for my liking. I said so and was subsequently dis-invited from discourse with his followers. That being the case… I went looking for a new political identity. I may have found one… as a fiscally conservative, socially liberal, federalist Republican.

    We shall see.

  2. Thanks for running it THC, appreciate it. Stop by and visit PCT anytime. You and the rest of the 4 million or so PUMA’s are always welcomed to pull up a cyber chair and chew the fat with me and my buddy. We consider you guys friends.

    CT

  3. Thanks THC and CT.

  4. Thanks for posting this wonderful piece by CT, THC. I know hell has officially frozen over now that I’ve re registered as a R, after 30 years of being a registered D. But, as many have already said, Country First. And, I refuse to belong to a party that lifts up an anti-American, racist, misogynist pig like Obama.

    I hope we get the leadership we deserve, with McPalin! I could sleep well at night with them in charge.

  5. THC and CT, all of you, in fact…

    I consider myself a relatively conservative independent. I’ve always tried to (well, since I voted for Carter) figure out who would be the BEST possible candidate, regardless of party affiliation.

    Because when you start putting PARTY over COUNTRY, you’re headed off a cliff. Sure, if you get control it’ll be a really smooth ride for a while. And you can persuade yourself that it’s all okay and things are working as they should… And then you hit. If you’re lucky, you survive, pick up the pieces, and try to figure out what the hell just happened. If you’re not you get a revolution, and that’s a REAL gamble.

    This election cycle is one of the worst I’ve ever seen as far as Party over Country orthodoxy goes. I thought it pretty apparent that Kerry wasn’t a suitable Presidential candidate – he’d never done anything noteworthy in Congress, his leadership ‘experience’ didn’t exactly endear him to me (being a 23 year veteran) and I was really rather concerned that the horse race of politics brought HIM to the front as the ‘best possible’ candidate for the Democratic Party in ‘04. I figured it was an anomaly, that 2008 would be better.

    Then THIS cycle hit, and I’ve had so many WTF moments I’ve lost count. Oil crisis, voter fraud, Caucus intimidation, financial crisis – Pelosi and Reid basically refusing any attempts to actually FIX the problems they could, in order to put blame for them on Republicans… We ALL occupy this house, our country, and PURPOSLY letting parts of it burn so you can blame it on the other party doesn’t do us any good at all!

    SYD describes it rightly – scortch and burn tactics, and they’d sow the ground with salt if they could.

    And then there’s Obama. A first term Senator running for President? Who basically has no major positive accomplishments in his resume? (He left his community organizer job because he couldn’t make a difference, the Annenburg Challenge produced nothing for $150 mil, Grove Parc was a disaster…) and he’s suddenly absolutely amazing and unquestionably holy? I’m supposed to just believe in ‘hope and change’ without actually looking at the candidate’s record?

    No. That’s just not gonna fly. I’ve attempted on various left-leaning blogs to discuss the concerns I’ve had – and not exactly been well received either. Party is ALL – the good of the country is much less important than ensuring the Party objectives are met. And if they’re not – then plan to do what you can to make sure that the opposition gets no good from things either.

    That sort of attitude is VERY worrisome to me. Cult of personality governments have a tendency to go VERY bad, VERY fast – and the historical parallels between the Obama Dems and certain groups who’ve taken over countries in the past are almost frightening. “Party over Country” thinking can justify a hell of a lot of abuses.

    Sorry to ramble so long here. In the end, I believe politics need to boil down to “Country Over Party”, and when you put “Party over Country” you’re really just hurting both.

  6. Thanks for writing this, CT, you summed up the PUMA philosophy beautifully. And thanks to THC for posting it and letting us all share in it.

    I’m a tree-hugging, gun-rights-supporting, vegetarian lefty who has found myself profoundly disconnected from the party that I called home for 30+ years. One thing I will say: I have close friends, and a longtime boyfriend, who are hardcore Republicans…so I already had a head start on knowing that you guys are not all Teh Evul :)

    My decision to vote Republican grew during the primaries and was cemented on May 31, 2008, the day the Democratic Party made it clear that it would rig the primary, steal votes, and disenfranchise two states and half the party just to help Obama win. Since then I have never looked back. Like StrayYellerDawg, there are large differences in what I and most Republicans believe…but there are also common areas. I support strong unions, an end to corporate welfare, and universal health care…but I also support gun rights, smaller (but more competent) government, and fiscal responsibility.

    The Democratic Party has shown itself incapable of fighting for the things it is supposed to represent and has chosen a candidate who is equally craven. For the moment I am still a registered Democrat and still support SOME of my local elected Democrats, but my eyes have been opened. I won’t blindly pull the “D” ever again. This has been an awakening in many ways, and I welcome a newer, more open vision to my once close-minded political views.

  7. [...] Guest Blogger CT: Be Careful When Puma-ing, You Might Get More … Since there were about 18 million people who voted for Hillary in the primaries and the Democratic Party is noted for its pluralism, it makes sense they are a very diverse lot. What I was more curious about was what brought them to this … [...]

  8. I really enjoyed CT’s article. Thanks, THC. I think when we have elections, we tend to focus so much on the issues that we differ over, we tend to forget that Americans really agree on more than we differ on. That’s why we’re such a great country.

  9. ‘I have close friends, and a longtime boyfriend, who are hardcore Republicans…so I already had a head start on knowing that you guys are not all Teh Evu.”

    I know how you feel, my fiance is literally a socialist, a hardcore feminist, and a little too educated for her own good. Imagine our political discussions.

    Good thing is she can stand Obama, loves Sarah Palin, not her politics of course, and thinks the MSM is a bunch of degenerate scum.

  10. How do you do? buy cheap nolvadex http://www.stumbleupon.com/stumbler/med-brother/ buy nolvadex liquid See you later!

    Are you very busy at the moment? buy nolvadex buy clenbuterol nolvadex online
    buy nolvadex drug Come back soon.

Leave a Reply